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Shadowing practice: Jeremy Allen White on Double Booking Baby Yoda for His Daughter's Birthday & The Bear Ending

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  1. Our first guest tonight is a Golden Globe and Emmy -winning actor who's about to hang up his apron and holster his spatula in the fifth and final season of0:00
  2. The Bear.0:08
  3. It premieres June 25th on FX and Hulu.0:09
  4. Please welcome Jeremy Allen White.0:12
  5. How you doing?0:32
  6. I'm good.0:33
  7. Good to see you.0:34
  8. It's good to see you.0:35
  9. The last time I saw you, we were in Brooklyn doing the show in October, I believe, right?0:36
  10. That's right.0:39
  11. That's right.0:40
  12. Yeah.0:40
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  1. It was you and Bruce.0:41
  2. Bruce Springsteen.0:42
  3. That was really special.0:42
  4. Yeah, that was fun.0:43
  5. It was fun.0:44
  6. It was a lot of fun having you guys on together.0:45
  7. Yeah, yeah, it was incredible.0:47
  8. I wish I could bring that guy everywhere with me.0:48
  9. It makes my job easier.0:50
  10. Can I ask how now that the movie is over and you guys have finished the promotional tour, are you still in touch with Bruce or was that it?0:51
  11. No, that wasn't it.1:01
  12. We still text every once in a while.1:02
  13. I tried to see him.1:04
  14. He was in LA not that long ago, but I was out of town.1:06
  15. But I'm going to try to see him this summer.1:10
  16. Does he use emojis when he texts?1:12
  17. No.1:16
  18. He's very specific.1:16
  19. The punctuation is on point.1:18
  20. Good, good, good.1:19
  21. Long messages.1:19
  22. Okay.1:21
  23. Yeah, yeah, yeah.1:21
  24. Very thorough.1:22
  25. So you live in LA.1:23
  26. Yes.1:25
  27. You grew up in Brooklyn.1:25
  28. I grew up in Brooklyn, yes.1:26
  29. And you have two kids, two little girls, right?1:27
  30. Yeah, yeah.1:29
  31. How old are you?1:29
  32. As he and Dolly, seven and five.1:30
  33. Seven and five, okay, that's a lot of fun.1:31
  34. Do you bring them home much to experience Brooklyn?1:34
  35. Yeah, we do.1:37
  36. We go home every Christmas.1:37
  37. We go back to the East Coast.1:39
  38. And every summer, we go back.1:40
  39. That's the best.1:42
  40. I love bringing my kids back, because I'm from Brooklyn.1:43
  41. That's right.1:47
  42. And I love bringing them back.1:47
  43. And I feel guilty, actually, when I bring them back, because they just run around wild with 30 other children.1:48
  44. And it's like no place else.1:55
  45. Yeah, yeah.1:57
  46. I mean, maybe there are other places like it, but I haven't lived in places like that.1:57
  47. No, no, it's beautiful.2:00
  48. I mean, I love summers in New York growing up.2:01
  49. I think a lot of people run away.2:04
  50. It gets pretty hot and humid out there.2:06
  51. But that's kind of, that's what I like about it.2:08
  52. Everybody kind of...2:10
  53. Well, that wasn't, I don't know about you, but for us, that was not an option to go anywhere, because we never went anywhere.2:11
  54. Yes, no, no.2:17
  55. We stayed every summer.2:18
  56. No camp, no anything.2:19
  57. We were like riding bikes, playing frisbee, running in the park, like messing around every summer.2:20
  58. When it got really hot with our family, we had one air conditioning unit in my parents' bedroom.2:25
  59. Yeah.2:31
  60. And my mom and dad and my sister and I, we would just lay on the bed in that room.2:31
  61. Yeah.2:36
  62. And that was your summer?2:37
  63. That was our summer.2:38
  64. That was camp.2:39
  65. Yeah.2:39
  66. We went to a freon camp.2:40
  67. Right.2:42
  68. What are the girls especially love about going back there?2:45
  69. Well, so now when we go back, you know, I have a little place very close to where I grew up in Brooklyn, so we spend a lot of time2:48
  70. in the city.2:55
  71. But I also rent a little house on Long Island now when we go back for the summer.2:56
  72. And it's super hot.3:01
  73. Yeah.3:02
  74. Yeah, this like sleepy town, about an hour and a half outside of the city.3:02
  75. And it's beautiful.3:07
  76. It's like a little beach town.3:08
  77. You know, they run around, they chase fireflies.3:10
  78. We don't have those here.3:14
  79. Did they flip out when they saw fireflies?3:15
  80. It was last summer.3:17
  81. It was the first time we rented this spot.3:18
  82. And they couldn't believe it.3:20
  83. Also last summer, it was incredible.3:21
  84. Like, they were just like flowing out of the grass.3:22
  85. I don't think we had seen that many even on the east coast for a long time.3:26
  86. And it was so magic and they were so in love.3:29
  87. We called them lightning bugs.3:32
  88. Yeah, lightning bugs.3:34
  89. Yeah, lightning bugs.3:35
  90. Yeah, yeah, yeah.3:35
  91. And then, you know, when you're a kid and you do weird stuff, you can't, you can smear them on your, you know...3:36
  92. I know, that's right.3:40
  93. Kids do, yeah, they did do that.3:41
  94. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all did it.3:42
  95. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.3:44
  96. Because they're, you know, I mean, they're, you know, there's certain bugs that get a real pass.3:45
  97. No, for sure.3:48
  98. Ladybugs are one.3:49
  99. Yeah.3:50
  100. And lightning bugs are like, you know, they're like, they're rave bugs.3:51
  101. They're like the bugs.3:55
  102. They're drug addict bugs.3:55
  103. Yeah, no, for sure.3:56
  104. Absolutely.3:57
  105. They're like glow sticks that fly, you know.3:58
  106. And I never realized how special that was.4:00
  107. I've kind of forgotten about them until I brought my kids back there.4:03
  108. And they were like, you're telling me there are bugs that glow?4:06
  109. Yeah, it's magic.4:09
  110. It's like real magic.4:10
  111. Yeah, fairy stuff.4:11
  112. Yeah.4:13
  113. Yeah, it really was.4:13
  114. And who do you, when you go out to, for the month, for the summer, is it just you and the kids or how do you do that?4:14
  115. So, I found this spot and there's, you know, there's lots of space.4:20
  116. So, I've, you know, a lot of my friends come out for weekends.4:25
  117. My parents and my sister and her boyfriend will stay most of the month of July out there.4:28
  118. Oh, okay.4:33
  119. And my girls are out there.4:34
  120. So, it's like a full house.4:36
  121. Let's go back to your parents for a second.4:37
  122. Yeah, yeah.4:39
  123. What is it like for you then living with your parents after not living with your parents for a good amount of time?4:40
  124. Yeah, I left, you know, I left the home, the family home when I was 18 and I've never lived with them again since then.4:48
  125. It's when I moved out here and I do regress in like very strange ways.4:54
  126. I asked my mom, she was out here recently actually visiting and we were eating dinner and out of nowhere I asked her, you know, in high school I was4:59
  127. athletic, right?5:10
  128. She was like, yeah.5:13
  129. And I was like, like I was strong, right?5:14
  130. And she was like, yeah, you're very strong.5:16
  131. And I was like, like I could have played sports if I wanted.5:18
  132. I could have played soccer and she was like, yes, Jeremy, you could have done anything you wanted to do.5:20
  133. I find I'm like, when I see them, I just need like approval all the time, but that's not very different from me with anybody.5:25
  134. So, you know.5:32
  135. So you're seeing where you're, you're not getting enough from the Emmys.5:33
  136. You need the Mommies as well.5:39
  137. I need all the Mommies.5:40
  138. All the Mommies I need, yes.5:41
  139. Did your kids see Star Wars, Mandalorian and Grogu?5:43
  140. Yeah, it's really magic.5:47
  141. Did they understand that you are, I have a picture of your guy.5:48
  142. Oh, goodness.5:50
  143. Oh, yeah, there it is.5:51
  144. So, did they understand that that's, that was your voice?5:52
  145. I mean, I told them, wow, yeah, I told them.5:55
  146. I told them it was me and they believed me, I think, but they weren't I mean, the movie was amazing.5:59
  147. John Favreau made this movie and it's like, it's really a beautiful, beautiful movie.6:04
  148. But especially Dolores, my youngest, she's obsessed with Grogu or Baby Yoda.6:10
  149. That was really all it was about for her, you know, and going to see.6:14
  150. Yeah, that's, that's Dolly.6:18
  151. That's another thing, huh?6:20
  152. Yeah.6:21
  153. Yeah, she's all about it.6:21
  154. And so that's all she really, that's all she really cared about.6:24
  155. Does she call Grogu Baby Yoda or does she say, because sometimes, you know, the fans, the hardcore fans don't like Baby Yoda.6:27
  156. I know, it's frowned upon.6:34
  157. Yeah.6:35
  158. She does say Baby Yoda.6:36
  159. She is a baby still.6:37
  160. So we got to like, you know, give her a break.6:39
  161. Yeah, yeah.6:41
  162. But I make sure I say Grogu and Baby Yoda.6:42
  163. Oh, yes, you must.6:44
  164. It's so important nowadays.6:45
  165. It's really important.6:46
  166. It's true.6:47
  167. It's true.6:47
  168. The most important.6:48
  169. Yeah.6:48
  170. Did she get to go on set and see any of the characters?6:50
  171. Well, so she didn't come to set.6:54
  172. Most of my work was in a, all of my work was in a recording booth.6:56
  173. So she didn't get to come around.7:00
  174. But it was her birthday in December.7:04
  175. And, you know, we try to have, you know, one year.7:07
  176. It was Elsa came, you know, to the birthday party.7:10
  177. And then it's K -pop Demon Hunters, you know, at my other daughter, as we have got these people came and were K -pop Demon Hunters.7:13
  178. And so I really wanted to find a Grogu, a Baby Yoda, to come to Dolores's birthday in December.7:20
  179. And we find, we actually find someone who happens to be a neighbor who's a really talented, like, special effects guy and makeup guy.7:26
  180. And his name is Paul Thompson.7:36
  181. And we got a puppet.7:39
  182. And we got this puppet.7:41
  183. He made it for the party?7:41
  184. No, he had already made it.7:43
  185. Oh, he had already?7:43
  186. So he was ready to go.7:44
  187. Oh, so you got a neighbor who has a baby?7:45
  188. We got a neighbor who has one.7:47
  189. And so we've booked this guy.7:49
  190. We're really excited.7:51
  191. Dolly's really excited.7:52
  192. And then I'm texting Pedro Pascal, who's in the movie, and he's so great.7:53
  193. And I mentioned him, yes.7:59
  194. And I mentioned to him, you know, Dolores is about the baby Yoda.8:02
  195. And he's like, text John.8:06
  196. Just text John and see what he can do.8:08
  197. And so I text John Favreau.8:10
  198. And I'm like, hey, like, I didn't want to, but I sent him that same picture that you guys saw.8:11
  199. My, you know, Dolly really loves Baby Yoda.8:16
  200. And he goes, let me make a couple calls.8:18
  201. And I go, okay.8:21
  202. And I get an email from someone at Lucasfilm.8:22
  203. And they say, yeah, we'll have Grogu come to the party.8:25
  204. But now I've double booked.8:29
  205. So I've got two Grogu's.8:33
  206. I don't have the heart to tell my lovely neighbor, you know, sorry, we got the real.8:36
  207. So what I decided to do is I just put like a two hour window in between the Grogu rivals.8:42
  208. So who went first?8:50
  209. Well, the Lucasfilm Grogu, you know, John Favreau's Grogu comes first.8:51
  210. Oh, that seems like a mistake.8:56
  211. I, yeah.8:57
  212. And they come over before the party starts.9:01
  213. So Dolly and Hazard get some like real one -on -one time.9:05
  214. And there are these amazing puppeteers.9:08
  215. It takes about six people with different remotes to control.9:10
  216. You're talking eyelids, fingertips, all these remotes control, all these other things.9:15
  217. So in order to get Grogu to react and respond, it's really like a choreographed dance.9:20
  218. These puppeteers are really amazing.9:25
  219. And they come and Dolly's talking to them, or talking to Baby Yoda.9:30
  220. And Baby Yoda's reacting.9:36
  221. And she has the best time and her friends come over.9:38
  222. And it's just like real magic.9:41
  223. Like she was so stunned.9:43
  224. And I'm so grateful to John.9:45
  225. And just sorry, sorry, you guys, grateful to these puppeteers are really amazing.9:47
  226. Their names are Mike Manziel, Don Dininger, Jason Matthews, Victor Phelps, Trevor Hensley, Griffin Scott, and Portia at Lucasfilm.9:52
  227. Thank you guys for doing that.10:02
  228. It was really, really amazing.10:03
  229. It really made Dolly's whole thing.10:06
  230. And it made me a star dad for a day.10:09
  231. So I'm very grateful.10:11
  232. Then Dolly sings a lullaby to Baby Yoda.10:14
  233. We send Baby Yoda back up to the spaceship.10:18
  234. We go about the party.10:21
  235. Another Baby Yoda comes down the stairs.10:24
  236. And she's like, I sang you lullaby.10:26
  237. Yeah, I sent you on your way.10:29
  238. Other Baby Yoda, you look very tired.10:31
  239. What, what happened?10:35
  240. Guys, we need to get Baby Yoda to a doctor.10:37
  241. Something happened to this Baby Yoda in these two hours.10:40
  242. And our wonderful neighbor, Paul Thompson, who did make a beautiful puppet, is just like, Dolly seems to be concerned about my Baby Yoda.10:44
  243. I don't really understand.10:52
  244. So that was Dolly's first day.10:54
  245. Did you explain it to him?10:55
  246. No, he'll be finding out.10:57
  247. Oh.10:59
  248. Oh, well.11:01
  249. Right now.11:02
  250. You know, it's the thought that counts.11:03
  251. It's the thought that counts.11:05
  252. And he did do a beautiful job.11:06
  253. And thank you, Paul, as well.11:07
  254. Dooling Grogu's at the White House.11:08
  255. Where Jeremy Allen White is here, is the fifth and final season of the Bear.11:10
  256. We'll be right back after this.11:15
  257. We'll be right back.11:16
  258. We're back with Jeremy Allen White from the Bear.11:17
  259. We've hit the final season.11:20
  260. I'm sad about the Bear being over.11:22
  261. I love the show.11:24
  262. I think it's one of the great shows.11:26
  263. I loved it from the moment it started.11:27
  264. And you guys have done such great, such an interesting show.11:30
  265. Yeah.11:32
  266. So unpredictable, also.11:33
  267. Yes, yeah.11:34
  268. Each season feels kind of like almost a different show to me.11:35
  269. Sometimes each episode feels like a different show.11:39
  270. You guys dropped a, just a surprise standalone episode.11:42
  271. That's right, Gary.11:45
  272. Which is crazy.11:47
  273. I don't know if any show has ever done that.11:48
  274. Has any show ever done that?11:50
  275. Have you heard of that ever happening before?11:51
  276. I don't think so.11:53
  277. I think it's pretty uncommon for people to not say anything, give no publicity whatsoever, and just, yeah.11:53
  278. And just sneak something in there like that.12:01
  279. Yeah, yeah.12:03
  280. And so that was, well, there's something happen at the end of that show.12:04
  281. Is that where this season picks up?12:09
  282. Yeah, it's around, yes.12:12
  283. It's around there.12:13
  284. It's around there.12:13
  285. Yeah, yeah, yeah.12:14
  286. And can you tell us anything about what happens?12:15
  287. They wouldn't even send us a clip.12:17
  288. That's how secretive it is.12:19
  289. Or they haven't finished.12:20
  290. I don't know.12:21
  291. It's secretive.12:21
  292. It's secretive.12:23
  293. They've finished.12:23
  294. I mean, I hope they've finished.12:24
  295. It comes out in a couple weeks now.12:25
  296. You know, what can I say?12:28
  297. Is Baby Yoda in it?12:33
  298. Grobo's not in it.12:36
  299. We have a lot of great guests.12:38
  300. You know who we have coming?12:39
  301. I don't think it's spoiling anything.12:41
  302. We have the Franks.12:42
  303. They're going to come and hang out.12:43
  304. Wait, my friends from the restaurant?12:45
  305. That's right.12:47
  306. Both on the Frankie's?12:47
  307. Yeah, they came out to Chicago for a couple days, so that's nice.12:48
  308. But no, it's, you know, I know, that's just for Jimmy.12:53
  309. I'm sorry, everybody.12:56
  310. But the world will fall in love with them no doubt.12:58
  311. I know.13:01
  312. Are they acting in this just so I know?13:02
  313. Yeah, yeah, yeah.13:04
  314. So they're like, they have minds?13:05
  315. Yeah, yeah, yeah.13:06
  316. Oh, that's great.13:07
  317. I know, it's exciting.13:08
  318. I hope it's terrible.13:08
  319. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.13:09
  320. They're great.13:12
  321. They're going to be great.13:12
  322. But no, it's just us trying to make, you know.13:14
  323. When did you wrap the shooting?13:17
  324. We wrapped in early March, mid -March, early March.13:19
  325. Did you take a memento?13:22
  326. I took many mementos.13:24
  327. Oh, you did?13:25
  328. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.13:25
  329. I really like, I...13:26
  330. What's the best thing you took?13:27
  331. Well, you know, there's this big butcher block table that's been in the corner of the beef, the restaurant, you know, that you saw when the show started in the13:29
  332. sandwich shop.13:42
  333. And it's the only thing that really remained during the evolution from, you know, the beef into the bear, which is the fine dining restaurant.13:42
  334. It remained in the same corner.13:51
  335. It was the only thing from the old world that came into our new world.13:53
  336. And I stole that.13:56
  337. Yeah.13:59
  338. Well, you use it or it'll be...14:00
  339. It's a good block.14:03
  340. So I got it shipped out.14:04
  341. It weighs about 400 pounds.14:06
  342. So I got it shipped out.14:09
  343. It's in my driveway under a tarp.14:11
  344. I just, I know that wherever it lands, it's going to stay there.14:13
  345. So I'm just being very careful about where I put it.14:16
  346. Okay, yeah, 400 pounds, yeah.14:19
  347. And you're also...14:20
  348. Have you finished shooting the sequel to the social network?14:21
  349. Yes.14:24
  350. Yes, you've finished shooting that.14:25
  351. Yeah, yeah, we finished that, yeah.14:25
  352. And that's...14:26
  353. I'm excited to see that.14:27
  354. Yeah.14:28
  355. That's an interesting idea.14:28
  356. Yeah.14:30
  357. I also read in Vanity Fair that you have had the same AOL email address for how long?14:30
  358. Since I was 12 or 13?14:37
  359. 12 or 13 years old.14:40
  360. Well, you guys remember AIM, you know, instant messenger?14:41
  361. Yeah, so whenever my 13 -year -old self created this email address.14:44
  362. So are you still getting emails from your friend, your like friends in what, like seventh grade or whatever that was?14:48
  363. No, I mean, we didn't email...14:56
  364. It's just a lot of spam now, really.14:57
  365. I see.14:59
  366. What it is, yeah.14:59
  367. Is it the one you use?15:00
  368. This is my only email address.15:02
  369. Oh, that's your only email.15:04
  370. Yeah, so I remember years ago, you know, maybe at 22, my agent, still my agent, great agent, Andrew, was like, you know, it's kind of embarrassing to go to15:05
  371. these meetings and, you know, you're with someone you really admire at the end of the meeting, if they want to get in touch with you, you have to say,15:17
  372. my email address is da -da -da -da -da at AOL .com.15:22
  373. And I was like, I don't think so.15:27
  374. I think I just need to get through this period and one day it'll be charming.15:28
  375. And, uh...15:36
  376. You're right.15:37
  377. It works.15:39
  378. It works.15:40
  379. Is it like a jerk off 13 -year -old boy type email address?15:41
  380. I mean, for sure.15:47
  381. That's not the email address, but yes, that's the kind of email address.15:50
  382. It's like, it's very, uh...15:54
  383. It's about me.15:56
  384. It's very prideful.15:57
  385. Uh -huh.15:59
  386. Um, I'm trying to think.16:00
  387. I want...16:02
  388. I want...16:03
  389. I kind of want you to guess it, and I kind of don't.16:03
  390. I would like to take a guess, because, okay, here's what I'm thinking.16:05
  391. Okay, yeah.16:07
  392. Here's what I'm thinking.16:08
  393. Okay.16:09
  394. Now, your initials are J -A -W, jaw, like, jaws, right?16:09
  395. Yes.16:14
  396. Your last name's white, like a great white, like a shark, right?16:14
  397. Yeah.16:17
  398. So, like, a jaws, great white, jaws?16:17
  399. You're not far off, but not quite there.16:21
  400. Okay.16:25
  401. Yeah, yeah, yeah.16:26
  402. I'll take it.16:26
  403. Yeah.16:27
  404. I'll tell...16:27
  405. Don't tell me what it is.16:29
  406. Okay.16:30
  407. I'm going to spend all night tonight trying to figure it out.16:31
  408. Okay, you let me know.16:33
  409. It's very good to see you.16:35
  410. Thanks for coming out.16:36
  411. So happy to see you.16:36
  412. Jeremy Allen, why everybody?16:37
  413. The fifth and farest review of the Bear from the years 225th on FX and Hulu.16:38
  414. We'll be back with Amanda Peake.16:43
  415. Bye.16:51

American accent training with a fast, unscripted late night interview

This clip is the opening of Jimmy Kimmel's interview with Jeremy Allen White, and it plays out as a real, unscripted conversation rather than a scripted scene. It sits at B1 level, and it moves fast: 227 words per minute, faster than 83 percent of the catalogue, so the two men talk over each other, laugh, and answer before the question is even finished. If you are after american accent training on how people actually speak, not a slowed down textbook exchange, this opening segment is a good place to work from.

The talk covers the final season of The Bear, a joint appearance with Bruce Springsteen, and Jeremy's two daughters splitting their year between Los Angeles and Brooklyn. None of it is rehearsed dialogue: it is two adults chatting, which makes it useful material for english speaking practice built around real daily english conversation rather than acted lines.

The language in this interview: lines worth shadowing for pronunciation

Kimmel opens with a single long sentence that keeps going through several clauses before landing on the guest's name, so it is a genuine test of breath control if you shadow this line out loud.

  • "we were in Brooklyn doing the show in October, I believe, right?" Kimmel adds "I believe" right before the tag question "right?", and your pitch needs to rise at the very end for it to sound like a real question rather than a statement.
  • "The punctuation is on point." Jeremy stresses "on point" to make a flat description land like a compliment, so repeat it until the stress falls in the same place.
  • "they just run around wild with 30 other children." the phrase "run around wild" is casual and rushed together, a good target if you want to improve your english accent on quick, connected phrases instead of isolated words.

How to work through the Kimmel and Jeremy Allen White exchange

Work the opening in order rather than jumping around, since each exchange sets up the next one.

  • Start with the short exchange "How you doing?" and "I'm good." Say both lines back to back until the greeting rhythm feels automatic.
  • Read Kimmel's opening line about hanging up his apron and holstering his spatula once silently, then shadow this line out loud in a single breath, the way he delivers it.
  • Repeat "we were in Brooklyn doing the show in October, I believe, right?" a few times, aiming for the rising pitch on "right?" at the end.
  • Practice "The punctuation is on point." until the stress on "on point" sounds natural, then move to "they just run around wild with 30 other children." for pace.
  • Finish by reading the whole opening exchange aloud without stopping, timing yourself against the clip's pace of 227 words per minute.
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