Shadowing practice: Kevin Hart on His Family's Reaction to His Roast, Rooting for the Knicks & Talking Trash Courtside
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- Our first guest tonight was just roasted on high heat for nearly three hours, and now he's even more delicious.0:00
- His new audiobook, Kids Make Me Angry, comes out tomorrow on Audible.0:07
- Please welcome Kevin Hart.0:11
- Welcome, welcome.0:34
- Oh.0:35
- Good to see you.0:36
- I haven't seen you in a long time.0:37
- It's been a minute, man.0:38
- It has.0:39
- How you doing?0:40
- I'm good.0:41
- You look good.0:41
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- You look good.0:42
- Life is good.0:42
- You look good too.0:43
- Life is great.0:44
- Life is not good.0:44
- I'm glad to hear that.0:45
- Healthy kids are happy.0:46
- Wife's happy.0:48
- I'm happy.0:48
- I'm happy because the 76ers are not in the NBA finals.0:49
- What the f***?0:54
- Yeah.0:55
- Why would you do that?0:56
- Word got to you.0:58
- What is that?0:59
- Why did that happen just now?0:59
- I just want to get you going.1:02
- You know, Nick swept the 76ers.1:03
- They did.1:06
- Which is four games to zero games.1:06
- I know what that is, Jimmy.1:08
- What are we doing?1:09
- So it's like they won no games.1:10
- If you were to extrapolate it, it might as well be like it could be like 400 games to zero.1:12
- Got it.1:17
- Got it.1:18
- Got it.1:18
- Well, the good news is the Lakers did better.1:19
- The Lakers did not get swept.1:21
- I mean, losing is losing.1:24
- You're right.1:27
- We're all watching the games from the same place.1:28
- But I am curious about that because when that happens, and I know there's a rivalry between Philly and New York, do you, because they are the team that beat1:30
- your team, do you root for them because it makes you feel like you were in third place?1:38
- I mean, look, I'm an East Coast native.1:43
- So I think it's only right to, you know, embrace the East Coast in any form that you possibly can.1:44
- What I wanted to be Philadelphia, of course.1:53
- Do I have a certain amount of love for New York?1:55
- Of course.1:59
- That's why I basically, you know, got good at comedy.2:00
- So I would love to see New York City finally getting the NBA Finals after 20 plus years.2:03
- I'm rooting for the next one.2:08
- 53 years.2:11
- Has been?2:12
- Yeah.2:12
- Yeah, it's been a really long time.2:13
- Yeah, yeah.2:14
- Where did I get 20 some?2:15
- I said 20 some.2:16
- I don't know.2:17
- But 53 years?2:18
- I'm sure they'd take it.2:19
- I mean, they've been in the finals, they were in the finals in the 80s, but they haven't won for 53 years.2:19
- Oh, I mean, that's a curse.2:25
- Yeah, that's a curse, right?2:27
- It needs to be broken.2:28
- When you are in the front row, as you've been known to be, taunting the opposing players as you have been known to do.2:29
- Yes, yes.2:37
- Do you feel that that helps your team or hinders it?2:38
- I'll be honest with you, Jimmy.2:42
- I think I've caused us a lot of games.2:43
- I think my attitude, my mouth, I think that I've definitely wrote a lot of checks that my ass couldn't cash and my team suffered consequences because of it.2:45
- Like the same.3:01
- Spike Lee has been this guy for the next few years.3:01
- The Knicks have not won because of Spike.3:04
- Spike is the only one that doesn't know that.3:09
- That's an interesting theory.3:10
- Actually, I want the championship more for Spike than I do for the Knicks.3:11
- Oh, really?3:15
- Yes.3:16
- Yes, you're right.3:16
- I think Spike Lee deserves the championship more than anybody else.3:17
- Spike has been suffering.3:22
- He's there no matter how bad the team is, no matter what, he's right there.3:23
- There's loyalty and commitment to that team.3:28
- I've never seen the money that Spike has spent sitting in those seats for 30 -plus years.3:31
- Shouldn't he get those seats for free?3:39
- Isn't it worth it to have him there?3:41
- I think it's tough because he's caused him a lot of games, too.3:44
- When you go look at Reggie Miller's prime and Reggie Miller doing this to Spike, Spike did that.3:49
- That was Spike's.3:55
- Nobody wants to say it, but Spike, you lost us the game.3:56
- You pissed Reggie off.3:59
- Reggie wasn't thinking about it.4:01
- You did something to Reggie.4:02
- Reggie came back and scored eight points in 20 seconds and looked at you and did this to you, Spike.4:04
- I wouldn't have let him back in the building if I owned the team.4:10
- Yeah, this is the jinx that I've ever seen it.4:13
- Have you ever targeted a specific player and then they just went off?4:14
- Two of them really got mad at me.4:19
- Duane Wade, when we were in the playoffs and we played against the Miami Heat and we were killing them in the first half.4:24
- I was talking crazy to Duane.4:30
- I was saying things because I was so confident that the game was in the back.4:34
- Were they personal things or what?4:39
- They were personal things.4:40
- I told him that he had prosthetics for calves.4:41
- I was attacking his body shape.4:45
- Philadelphia, we breed real men.4:50
- I mean, I was really going ham.4:52
- He looked at me and he said something along the lines of, it was, you're a bitch.4:55
- You remember everything you said.5:04
- He went on to put on the show.5:07
- We ended up losing the game.5:10
- I got out the building.5:12
- I left early.5:13
- I didn't want the fans to react to me.5:15
- James Harden is another one.5:18
- I said James Harden off when he was at Houston.5:20
- James, he decided to point at me and tell me that I'm responsible for what's about to happen.5:24
- They always pinpoint me well.5:32
- They do it beforehand.5:34
- They do it beforehand.5:35
- It happens.5:36
- This is like the opposite of when Babe Ruth would go to the hospital and visit the young kid and say, I'm going to hit a home run for you.5:36
- This is the complete opposite of that.5:43
- This is not that.5:45
- It's not done with good intention.5:46
- It's all competitive.5:49
- It's love.5:50
- I got great relationships with a lot of these guys.5:50
- When I'm in the front row, they expect a certain amount of trash talking.5:53
- They know what I'm coming for.5:58
- If you are friendly with a guy, will you be more vicious?6:00
- Absolutely.6:03
- What about LeBron?6:03
- I know you guys play cards together.6:05
- Your buddies, you will go after LeBron.6:06
- Absolutely.6:09
- And then maybe even see him after the game.6:09
- Talk to him like nothing ever happened.6:12
- Yeah.6:14
- Brian's got no hair.6:16
- Look at your bald spot.6:22
- So as soon as I see him after the game, what's up man?6:26
- You played great today.6:28
- I've never seen you like this.6:29
- Give me a hug.6:30
- That's what it's about.6:30
- Last month, you were the subject of a Netflix roast.6:32
- Yes.6:35
- And obviously, you dish it out there, you can obviously take it as well.6:35
- Because you volunteered to be a part of this.6:40
- Absolutely.6:42
- Obviously.6:43
- Well, I think the beauty of any roast is the roast tea being gained for whatever is going to happen.6:43
- So sometimes it happens that the roast tea did not research what the roast is getting into.6:52
- Yeah.6:57
- Yeah.6:57
- Yeah.6:58
- Yeah.6:58
- Yeah.6:58
- Because you don't really understand what comes with that chair.6:59
- Yes.7:01
- I've seen that happen.7:02
- Yeah.7:03
- When you sit in that chair, it's like, okay, have at it.7:03
- Like, go.7:06
- Have a good time.7:07
- Right.7:08
- Noted that I get the mic last and I'm going to have a good time.7:08
- Right.7:11
- But you're not going to make me uncomfortable in the chair.7:11
- I'm not going to let you get the luxury of seeing me be uncomfortable.7:14
- Like I'm not going to sit and give a reaction of, oh my god, this stuff hurts, what you're saying.7:19
- So I sat there in comfort.7:25
- Did any of it hurt?7:27
- No.7:29
- No, man.7:29
- I think the one that caught me off guard, Dwayne had the picture of my father and he had a mug shot of my dad.7:31
- And he goes, look at my dad.7:42
- Kev, we both love our dads.7:44
- And he had a picture of his dad in shape, you know, coming from the gym.7:45
- He's like, look at my dad.7:49
- He's a tank.7:50
- And then he goes, look at Kevin's dad.7:51
- And it was the worst picture of my father I've ever seen.7:52
- The worst picture of my father.7:55
- And it caught me off guard, but it was funny.7:56
- And anything done with the effort of giving a laugh, I'm always going to give it the benefit of the doubt.7:58
- All the stuff said about me, you know, I'm like, look, it is what it is.8:05
- They're jokes at the end of the day.8:09
- And that's how it's done.8:10
- What about your wife?8:10
- Did she like it?8:11
- My wife can take a joke.8:13
- You got to remember, man, my wife has been with me for a very long time.8:16
- We got 17 years in the can.8:18
- So there's a lot of abuse that I've given her.8:22
- Defensive of view.8:24
- That's what I'm wondering.8:26
- My wife does it.8:27
- My daughter does.8:29
- My oldest daughter.8:30
- My oldest daughter didn't come.8:31
- She didn't.8:32
- Yeah, she was like, I'm not going.8:33
- Did she see it?8:34
- No, she didn't watch it.8:35
- She's like, I can't watch people talk about my dad.8:36
- Really?8:37
- Yeah, she gets mad.8:37
- That's kind of nice, right?8:38
- My oldest one is very sensitive.8:39
- And then the other kids don't care?8:41
- Oh, my other kids don't give a f***.8:42
- They don't, they don't care.8:44
- They don't give a f***.8:47
- Like my oldest son, he was like, I looked at him sometimes because he was an audience.8:48
- He was laughing too hard.8:52
- I'm supposed to laugh, man.8:55
- Like, let me, let me laugh.8:57
- You should look uncomfortable.8:58
- He was slapping his leg.9:00
- I can't even imagine my dad being on a dais and getting roasted.9:03
- I'm going to tell you the thing that I think the thing that I find most funny is like, if you go research roast in general, you look at the9:08
- history of all roasts.9:17
- They've never not been brutal.9:19
- They're brutal.9:21
- And the object within the roast is to hurt, but do it from a place of love.9:22
- Like, you know why we're all here.9:28
- We're all here to have fun.9:30
- But I'm going to try to say some a** to really rattle you.9:31
- That was the, that was the context of it back in the day, the early days of the roast.9:34
- So if you look at those guys, when you look at Pryor, you look at Robin, Robin Williams, I mean, you go look at Paul Moone.9:39
- These, these roasts were vicious, but it was brutal within the idea of fun.9:46
- Right.9:53
- So I think today, still trying to stay true to this form of comedy, I think it's, it's necessary because it's a, it's an actual, it's an actual talent within9:53
- the idea of roasts that comedians have to have to make this work.10:04
- Who would you like to see roasted next time?10:09
- It's tough, man, because you're following two really big roasts.10:12
- Right.10:15
- And now like there's been so much, there's been so much conversation after this roast.10:15
- Right.10:20
- The sensitivity attached to the roast will prohibit the next person from stepping up.10:21
- Yeah.10:26
- I don't know, I don't know who's brave enough to do it.10:27
- But I think whoever that is makes the roast that much bigger because although it got all this crazy controversy, conversation after somebody saying, I'm willing to go and do10:29
- it and allow people to have at it.10:41
- It's palsy.10:44
- It's, it's, it's extremely both.10:44
- But it takes a big, like it has to be, it has to be a real big name.10:46
- Like, like if LeBron were to say, I'll do it, that's a big roast.10:51
- LeBron sitting in the chair, knowing what comes with it, that would be a big roast.10:54
- What about Oprah?10:58
- Would that be, would that be unacceptable?11:01
- That'd be like spray painting the Sistine Chapel.11:08
- If I found out that Oprah said she wanted to do it, I'm driving 100 miles per hour to Oprah's house.11:12
- You cannot do this.11:20
- No, no shot.11:23
- Kevin Hart is here.11:24
- No shot.11:25
- Kids make me angry as his new audio book will be right back.11:26
- Welcome back to the show.11:30
- Kevin Hart is here.11:31
- Dreymond Green is waiting backstage.11:32
- Dreymond was one of your roasters.11:34
- Yes.11:37
- I think he did a good job, right?11:37
- He didn't do bad.11:39
- He didn't do bad.11:39
- He didn't do bad.11:40
- What grade would you give him?11:40
- I'm going to give him a B plus.11:42
- I think it takes a lot of balls to get up there.11:44
- He's not a comedian.11:47
- He embraced the idea of what it was.11:48
- He worked well with his team that tried to shape a set form.11:52
- He had some big jokes laying.11:57
- Is he better at stand -up than you are at basketball?11:59
- Absolutely not.12:02
- No.12:03
- Absolutely not.12:04
- I'm a four -time celebrity game MVP.12:05
- You retire.12:08
- You're retired.12:09
- I'm a Hall of Fame.12:11
- I don't know why I looked it up today because I was like, you know, you are a really good player.12:13
- I was like, oh, maybe, you know, but it's like, oh, Kevin's too small to play.12:16
- You're two inches taller than Mugsy Boggs.12:20
- First of all, he played 14 years.12:22
- First of all, I want to make this very clear.12:24
- Some of the biggest legends in the game of basketball were small guys.12:27
- Earl Boykins, Spud Webb, Mugsy Boggs.12:31
- This is just to name a few.12:35
- You named all of them.12:37
- I really did go through it fast, didn't I?12:41
- I started to name a couple, but I was like, no, man, they're all six foot in the bow.12:44
- But like Mugsy Boggs, like if he was as big as Shaq, he would score what, like 250 points a game?12:49
- Of course, man.12:53
- Do you know the talent that it takes to be in this stature and really dominate the game?12:54
- Like us, when I say us, players of our caliber.12:59
- The greats, right?13:04
- To do what we do is insane.13:05
- I mean, you have Draymine here.13:07
- The world doesn't know.13:09
- I beat Draymine Green in the three point competition on national television.13:10
- Okay?13:14
- I don't play.13:15
- Yeah, yeah.13:15
- This is true, by the way.13:16
- You can look it up on the internet.13:17
- Draymine Green.13:20
- Okay.13:21
- Look, is he talented at what he does?13:22
- Yes.13:24
- Is he as talented as me?13:25
- No.13:26
- And you know what?13:28
- The good thing is we have a rapport.13:30
- We have a relationship.13:32
- That's what's most important.13:33
- We were able to keep our friendship together after I issued said ass -swipping on television.13:34
- But you know, I just love the fact that I've been able to succeed.13:41
- Oh, he's right behind you.13:44
- Is he really?13:46
- Is he really?13:46
- Just got to hold yourself like this right here.13:48
- No, but I think what I want people to know, man, I had a tough choice to make and that choice was like, what do I do?13:51
- Is it stand -up comedy or is it basketball?13:58
- And comedy chose me, but basketball, that was my real love.14:00
- I could have pursued a basketball career, but I chose comedy.14:05
- I'm glad you made this choice.14:09
- And you know what?14:10
- There's a, you've got this new audio book.14:11
- The whole family is on the cover of the book.14:16
- These are your kids right here, right?14:19
- Yes, those are my kids.14:20
- Kids make me angry, but I love them anyway.14:21
- Yes.14:24
- Why do your, do your children make you angry?14:25
- Of course.14:27
- Yeah.14:29
- But not like angry to the point of no return.14:29
- I think any, there's frustration and parenting, but there's also an abundance of love.14:32
- And the reason behind this particular project was there's a stereotype attached to black fathers.14:36
- And I think that there's so many of us that are doing the right thing.14:42
- And the only way to get the narrative to shift is by highlighting what the right thing is.14:47
- To talk about it.14:52
- And embrace it.14:53
- Is this a guide for fathers?14:54
- You know what it is?14:56
- It's not, it's not advice.14:57
- It's information.14:59
- You know, talking about my trials and tribulations as a father and how I got better as I got older and of course as, as I have more kids because15:00
- you learn so much from one kid and you learn the things not to do or to do for the next kid.15:11
- And it keeps going on and on and on.15:17
- And being a father of four, I think what I'm realizing is that communication is the best tool for any parent.15:19
- Talking to your kids, being present, having dialogue and not being afraid to have tough conversations.15:26
- So in our household, our big rule is we don't focus on a problem.15:32
- We always talk about a solution and anger gets us nowhere.15:36
- So regardless of what it is that you did, when we're talking about it, we're always going to get to a solution.15:39
- So there is no problem that can't be solved if it's tabled correctly.15:44
- Now this sounds very reasonable to me.15:48
- Yes, yes.15:50
- But I have found that the kids don't listen to their parents, right?15:51
- They don't want to hear it from you.15:59
- Are you kids funny kids?16:01
- Yeah.16:02
- I have kids with amazing personalities, sense of humor.16:03
- But here's a good thing, right?16:06
- You're not supposed to want to listen to me out the gate.16:08
- I got to get you to a place of trust and knowing that the things that I'm saying are correct.16:11
- And the only way I can do that is to let you do it your way sometimes.16:16
- Every once in a while, let your kid bump their head.16:18
- Let your kid do the thing that they're very adamant about, that they think they know.16:21
- Because dad, you don't know, I know.16:25
- Okay, well you should try it.16:26
- And then when they don't do it, you don't go, I told you, instead you embrace them and say look, it's okay to do things and not work.16:28
- But let me give you some information to make it work the next time.16:35
- This is good.16:37
- So now it's more about - This is like a real book.16:38
- Yes.16:41
- And it's done with personality, it's done with real stories.16:42
- And I think the ability to find fun in anything, the ability to have personality and more importantly embrace the personalities in your household, you'll find that they make the16:46
- world of parenting better.17:00
- And for me, it got more fun as I got older, but I also realized, damn, my mom and dad were right about the majority of things that they said.17:02
- And sometimes it takes a long time for you to get there.17:13
- It takes a long time for you to understand.17:16
- But my expectations from my kids, they aren't unrealistic.17:19
- Like with kids in school as an example, we all want our kids to dominate in the space of education.17:23
- We want our kids to go and do the best they can in school.17:28
- A lot of times we don't look at the type of student that we were.17:31
- What kind of student were you?17:34
- I'm not a scholar, I never was a student that flew through school with A's.17:36
- So when my kids did have problems in school, instead of me going, this is unacceptable, it was more about you probably need a bigger side of help than I17:42
- can offer you.17:50
- Why don't we find a fun way for you to understand it and you work more on the outside and figure out a better learning curve.17:51
- Will you come talk to my kids?17:58
- I feel like they would listen to you.18:00
- I think communication is key.18:02
- I think your kids will listen to you.18:05
- Sometimes it's not the message, it's the delivery.18:06
- Yeah, but if I have a real problem, I can say, hey kids, I got the guy from Jumanji you know that guy you love.18:09
- There you go.18:13
- And he's got some important stuff to tell you.18:14
- Yeah, and you can come in and straighten them out.18:16
- How many kids you got?18:18
- I got four.18:19
- Four, okay, what are you saying?18:19
- Four kids.18:20
- How far?18:21
- Four kids, one granddaughter.18:21
- One granddaughter.18:22
- Wow.18:23
- Good for you.18:24
- Good for you, man.18:25
- You're on the other side.18:27
- I guess I'm not on the other side, but I'm on both sides is where I am.18:28
- My son's nine, my daughter's 11, so yeah, I've got a whole thing going on.18:33
- Okay, so I'm just wanting your help.18:36
- Five, eight, 18, 21.18:38
- Okay, great.18:41
- Those are my ages right now.18:42
- Two in college and then two wrecking the house.18:44
- That's what I have.18:47
- All right, well it's great to see you.18:47
- I'm glad you're doing well.18:49
- I hope the kids, did the kids listen to the book or you can't give them your secrets?18:51
- No, I don't think they listen to it yet.18:55
- I like them to hear things in real time.18:57
- So they knew the projects that I was working on and while working on it, I got little anecdotes from them throughout so that the audience listening could see that18:59
- these things aren't like hypothetical or made up.19:07
- They're very real.19:11
- They're real.19:12
- All information in this book is very real.19:13
- And the relationships from the parents and my ex -wife to my wife and how we built our friendship and how the co -parenting world that we created, we understood19:16
- the village was more important because the village is what the kids will respond to.19:26
- So our energy, our friendship, our love amongst ourselves would ultimately, it would go to them and then they would respond and give us the energy that we're giving them.19:30
- So my kids, my kids have seen that throughout their lives and I think now me looking at the younger adults they've become, I couldn't be more prouder of the19:40
- people that they are.19:49
- You're the smartest basketball player I've ever met.19:50
- I mean, you know.19:52
- This is the book.19:54
- Yes.19:55
- It's called, Kids Make Me Angry and is Available Tomorrow on Audible.19:56
- Go get it.20:00
- Kevin Hart on Forget It.20:01
- Go get it.20:01
- We'll be back with Game of Thrones.20:02
American Accent Practice with Kevin Hart's Late Night Interview
This clip is a two person interview from Jimmy Kimmel Live: Kimmel teases Kevin Hart about the 76ers losing to the Knicks in the playoffs, and Hart answers with mock outrage and quick jokes. It is rated B1 and runs at 220 words per minute, faster than 76 percent of the catalogue, so treat it as english speaking practice for a learner who is already comfortable following normal conversational speed, not a first clip.
Both men speak in a natural american accent, and this recording has no reduced forms flagged in it, so every word is said clearly rather than swallowed together. That makes it a good clip for daily english conversation practice: you get real back and forth banter, interruptions, and reactions, the kind of exchange that a scripted dialogue rarely gives you.
The Banter and Deadpan Lines Worth Studying
A few lines here reward close listening before you try to say them yourself.
- "I'm happy because the 76ers are not in the NBA finals." The stress sits hard on happy and on 76ers, and the sentence only makes sense once you hear the sarcastic lift in his voice.
- "Which is four games to zero games." Kimmel says this completely flat, no smile in the voice, which is exactly what makes it a joke. Copy the flatness, not just the words.
- "It's been a minute, man." A common way to say it has been a while, said fast with falling intonation on man. Worth repeating until it stops sounding like reading.
- "So I think it's only right to, you know, embrace the East Coast in any form that you possibly can." One long run on sentence with a you know dropped in the middle, useful for practising how native speakers keep talking while they think.
How to Shadow the 76ers and Knicks Exchange
Work through this clip in the order the conversation actually happens, not at random.
- Start with the greeting at lines 6 and 7, "Good to see you." and "I haven't seen you in a long time." Two short, low pressure lines to warm up on natural rhythm before the jokes start.
- Shadow this line next: "I'm happy because the 76ers are not in the NBA finals." Listen to it twice before you speak, then try to match the rise into 76ers and the sarcastic drop after.
- Play lines 30 to 32 together, "You know, Nick swept the 76ers." "They did." "Which is four games to zero games." Reading all three back to back trains quick turn taking, not just single sentences.
- Loop "Got it." "Got it." "Got it." from lines 37 to 39 until the flat, repeated delivery feels automatic. Short repeated lines like this are where english shadowing practice pays off fastest because you can run them many times in a minute.
- Finish with the long line 48 about embracing the East Coast. Say it slowly once, then bring it back up to the clip's own pace, which is a direct way to work on speaking english fluently at real conversational speed and improve your english accent on longer sentences.