Shadowing practice: Blindboy Boatclub | The Tommy Tiernan Show
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- Tommy, our next guest is the wonderful Blind Boy Board Club!0:00
- CHEERING AND APPLAUSE What's going on?0:06
- Yeah!0:13
- No!0:16
- HE LAUGHS What the fuck are we going to talk about?0:18
- LAUGHTER My sports commentary, man.0:23
- What?0:26
- I'm Marty Marisi.0:27
- LAUGHTER You have to cut it a more right, I think.0:29
- I do, yeah.0:32
- Erm...0:35
- What time is it?0:39
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- What are you up to?0:43
- I just wrote a book.0:44
- What did I do?0:48
- I know it now, the rustle in the bag, the microphone.0:51
- I can position my torso that way so the rustle...0:55
- It was really bad, was it?0:58
- I get rustle.1:00
- I bag rustle and problems, you know?1:01
- Yeah.1:03
- Is it a melder?1:04
- LAUGHTER It's weird, cos I was only thinking about...1:06
- The last few times I've seen you on TV and stuff, I've been blown away by your passion and intelligence.1:11
- You're on fire, like...1:22
- Thank you very much.1:24
- You've stuffed to be given out about, don't you?1:25
- I have a fair few things to be given out about, yeah.1:28
- Erm...1:32
- Trying my best, like, do you know what I mean?1:32
- What I've found is, like, I'm a clown, like, I'm a fucking clown.1:34
- Yeah.1:38
- And when a clown says something that...1:38
- You're fairly angry for a clown, though.1:41
- Yeah, but clowns are allowed to be angry, do you know what I mean?1:42
- The things that I say are not in any way remarkable.1:46
- It's just because I look like an airship, people listen.1:48
- Whereas if I was wearing a suit, people are used to people in suits saying certain things, so you need to change the delivery of the medium, and then all1:52
- of a sudden people pay attention.2:00
- Like, Trump is doing it in the opposite way, you know?2:02
- Dressed like a suit but talking like a clown.2:06
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.2:08
- So, do you...2:10
- Am I right in thinking, do you have a degree in something?2:11
- I have a few different things.2:15
- I did a Masters last year in a socially engaged art, which is a way of bringing art out of galleries and into the public sphere, because art has gone2:16
- up its own hole.2:25
- And then I studied psychology for years as well.2:26
- I studied psychotherapy.2:30
- You've amazed and passionate, like.2:31
- You're concerned about the country.2:33
- Well, absolutely.2:36
- I mean, again, being from Limerick, Limerick is...2:37
- Limerick's got the highest rate of suicide in the country.2:40
- Limerick is still technically kind of in recession, you know?2:43
- Unemployment.2:46
- Limerick got a fair wallop after recession, and it was mainly people my own age, so the recession would have hit when I was in my early 20s.2:48
- And just half my friends went to Australia, the other half died, and the ones that didn't die were left with severe mental health issues because of lack of support2:56
- systems and the pressures of their daily life and the lack of seeing a future.3:06
- So I just found myself looking at my Facebook and Twitter one day and seeing that, like, 70 % of kind of men under 30 in the country follow us3:09
- online, and I was going, OK, well, how can I bring some...3:19
- Especially the stuff that I learned to be a psychotherapist, how can I bring that to those people, but do it in a medium that isn't intimidating, do it with3:22
- a bag on my head, do it through with a crack?3:29
- Again, my own journey.3:31
- I used to suffer unbelievable depression, anxiety, things like that, and I came out the other side of it using psychological tools, and I wouldn't mind people learning a bit3:33
- of that because a lot of it you can get through self -help.3:42
- Like what?3:44
- Cognitive behavioural therapy.3:45
- That worked for me, CBT.3:46
- If you have anxiety or depression, that you can retrain how you think, and that then will...3:48
- means you won't experience intensely unpleasurable emotions.3:56
- And that worked for me.3:59
- It sounds like you have a lot of...4:01
- care then for people who are in that situation.4:06
- Because I was able to come out of it, and because I was able to come out of that, I was like...4:10
- It wasn't even that difficult.4:15
- It wasn't as difficult as I thought it would have been.4:17
- I was in a hopeless place, but because I came out of it, I'm going, Jesus Christ, why isn't this in schools?4:19
- Why isn't this available to everyone, these tools?4:26
- So obviously you want to presatellise it once you kind of...4:28
- I don't know, like someone who goes to AA and gets off the drink, they never shut off about AA, you know?4:31
- So I'm like that now about mental health tools.4:36
- The best mental health services in the country are charities, unfortunately, you know, people like Pierre de Haas.4:39
- That shouldn't be the case.4:45
- You should be able to go to your GP, and the GP goes, here's a counsellor there, that's on your medical card, and there's no six -month waiting list, you4:47
- can get that next week.4:54
- That's the service that should exist.4:55
- And then to prevent that proactively, from the ages of about three on up, kids should be taught basic psychological tools.4:57
- Of how to understand and be resilient with emotions and stress, which we're not taught.5:04
- And the reason that this is bordering into conspiracy theory, the reason I think in our society, in Western society in general, that we're not given these tools, is because5:09
- we can't be advertised to, if we are completely mentally healthy.5:19
- Because if you think of, I don't know, Annie Brand, right?5:25
- If you think of a bar of soap, right, when was the last time you saw an ad for a bar of soap, and they're actually telling you how clean5:30
- it will get you?5:34
- They don't tell you how clean it will get you.5:35
- What they'll do is they'll show you photographs of beautiful people.5:37
- So when you buy this soap, they're trying to sell you a better version of yourself.5:40
- That only works in a population that is not emotionally aware.5:44
- When someone becomes emotionally aware, and aware of how they're feeling, then they start buying soap for how clean it gets them.5:47
- They're not going to be sold this idealised version of themselves, because they're grounded enough to know, that soap isn't going to make me a better person.5:54
- So capitalism itself relies upon populations that aren't too self -aware.6:01
- So I wonder...6:07
- That's conspiracy theory stuff now.6:08
- Let's just make smoking too many joints.6:09
- Do you know?6:12
- How did that...?6:13
- Coming up with those feelings, which are hard and overwhelming, and I think, when you talk about the world of Elman, can you talk me through discovering blind by, and6:19
- how that suddenly...6:34
- What that felt like, where you suddenly were alone, and anxious, and sad, and not enjoying life, and then after a process of a while, suddenly finding, Jesus, there's freedom6:37
- in this, and there's a platform, and there's...6:52
- Oh, Jesus, yeah.6:55
- Well, ironically, like I said, one of my issues, like, was social anxiety.6:57
- So I took putting a bag in my head to be comfortable speaking to a room full of people, do you know what I mean?7:02
- But, uh...7:08
- Mainly, I used the bag more for my own privacy.7:09
- Do you know?7:11
- I'm conscious of the fact that, like...7:12
- I just want to go to Eldian by toilet roll and not have people talk to me about horse outside, you know?7:14
- That's about it, like.7:19
- But, um...7:20
- I don't know, the bag does...7:22
- It allows me to express things that a human doesn't.7:23
- I'm a cartoon character, I'm like Homer Simpson, you know?7:27
- I don't have to account the way that a normal human would a face would.7:29
- Freedom.7:34
- Yeah, freedom, yeah.7:34
- You've beautiful eyes.7:36
- Thank you very much, Tammy.7:38
- Thank you.7:39
- No, you do.7:40
- Thank you.7:41
- And I'm struck by the level of care that you feel for people.7:41
- Again, there is a selfishness to it.7:48
- Um...7:52
- And again, this is part of my own self -awareness, it's like...7:52
- The reason I do this and try and help other people is because it helps me sleep better at night.7:56
- I go to bed going, I did something nice for somebody today, or I tried to help, therefore it helps me.8:01
- Do you mean...8:05
- When you say that, do you mean an individual, or do you mean through the fandom?8:07
- An individual, or even just putting a Facebook status up about something to do with mental health and then getting nice messages from someone saying, that thing you wrote earlier8:11
- helped me through today.8:19
- Otherwise, I go up my own hall if I'm starting thinking, oh, I'm only doing this for other people.8:21
- It's like, no, no, no, I'm...8:24
- Part of my journey of mental health is having self -compassion and compassion for other people.8:26
- So there is a degree of selfishness to it, but it's not the bad type of selfishness, but there is a self -centredness to it.8:34
- Yeah.8:41
- What are you like without having the bag?8:42
- Do you know what?8:48
- Over the years, I'm the same as I am now, to be honest, I'm not too far off, you know?8:49
- I mean, the character that I have has grown a lot over the years, but I'm a lot closer now to who I actually am.8:53
- Do you know?9:00
- I just have the bag, like I said, for privacy.9:01
- I don't want to be recognised walking down the street.9:03
- I wouldn't wish that on anybody.9:06
- I'm sure you know to crack, you know?9:08
- There's great wisdom in your mask, for sure, yeah.9:10
- And so if I met you without the mask, you'd be just a slightly calmer version of this, is that just it?9:16
- I'd be the exact same, I just wouldn't have a bag in my head.9:25
- Do you know?9:28
- In terms of...9:29
- You have beautiful eyes and a beautiful smile.9:31
- That sounds like a weird priest.9:33
- LAUGHTER That'll be you, too.9:36
- Honest of all, you do.9:39
- Thank you, thank you.9:40
- In terms of what the bandits are up to, work -wise, what's he asked?9:42
- At the moment, I just did a book.9:47
- I wrote 15 short stories called The Gospel of Cardinal the Blind Boy, because it's fiction and gospels are fiction.9:50
- And you would enjoy it, actually, because you're a fan of Flann, aren't you?9:58
- Totally, yeah.10:00
- And I'm obsessed with Flann myself, you know?10:01
- Flann was the Flann O 'Brien, the person who turned me on to...10:03
- Not comedy, but Flann O 'Brien turned me on to the Irish way of comedic thinking, you know?10:07
- So the book that I wrote is...10:13
- It would be very heavily influenced by Flann.10:15
- I can't get away from Flann.10:17
- Simply as I wasn't trying to, it's just...10:18
- He's there in my heart, my core, my creative heart is Flann O 'Brien and James Joyce, as well.10:20
- So there's the book, and you're right.10:25
- Flann O 'Brien is the godfather of us all, I think.10:27
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.10:32
- He's phenomenal.10:32
- Are you giggin' still?10:34
- We're still doing gigs, yeah.10:35
- We did Vick or Street there.10:36
- We might head over to London for a while.10:38
- I have a podcast now, as well, called The Blind Boy Podcast.10:40
- So we're just arsonin' around, doing the usual thing, you know?10:45
- I mean, the thing with our...10:48
- People are always asking us, how are you gettin' on?10:49
- I always say, like, we've been goin' for 17 years, but, like, our career trajectory can only be described as...10:51
- Ashley, you know yourself, tipping away.10:58
- That's our career trajectory.11:00
- It's never there, it's never there.11:02
- Ashley, you know yourself, tipping away.11:03
- That's our career.11:05
- I think for everybody who works in Ireland, that's their career.11:06
- Yeah, you know yourself, tipping away.11:09
- Yeah.11:11
- I wish every...11:13
- Look is the wrong word, OK, because...11:15
- If any of our lives are dependent on look, and I'm sure in some weird way they are, that's not a strong platform, but I wish every bit of strength11:19
- and power to you in your messin' and healin' over the next few years.11:30
- So fair play.11:36
- Ladies and gentlemen...11:37
- APPLAUSE .11:39
Daily english conversation practice from an unscripted Irish interview
This clip is a real television interview, Tommy Tiernan talking with Blindboy Boatclub, not a rehearsed scene. Two people talk over each other, laugh, and change subject mid sentence, which is exactly what everyday english sounds like off a script. The category is comedy, so the tone stays light even when the subject turns serious.
The level is B2 and the pace is 204 words per minute, faster than 64% of the catalogue, so this is not a slow, careful recording. That speed plus the Irish accent makes it a solid pick if you want to improve your english accent by matching a rhythm that never pauses for you, rather than a studio voice reading at a fixed tempo.
The language in this Irish comedy interview: tags, swearing, and one rare word
A few lines here are worth slowing down for before you try to speak english fluently at full speed.
- Line 5, "What the fuck are we going to talk about?", is the host's first reaction, thrown out fast with no pause before it, the stress falling hard on "fuck" and "talk".
- Line 30, "Trying my best, like, do you know what I mean?", and line 35 repeat the same tag, "do you know what I mean", a filler Blindboy leans on constantly, useful for shadowing this line until the whole phrase comes out as one unit instead of six separate words.
- Line 37, "It's just because I look like an airship, people listen.", carries the rare word "airship", said flat and matter of fact, with no stress lift to signal the joke is coming.
- Six words across the clip drop their final g, a casual ending typical of Irish speech, part of why this recording rewards close listening rather than reading.
How to shadow this Tommy Tiernan Show clip line by line
Work the opening exchange in order rather than jumping around, since the two speakers build on each other.
- Start on line 5, "What the fuck are we going to talk about?", and repeat it until the stress lands on the same two words the host hits.
- Move to line 35, "Yeah, but clowns are allowed to be angry, do you know what I mean?", and isolate the tag on its own before you try the full line.
- Take line 37, "It's just because I look like an airship, people listen.", slowly first for the pronunciation of "airship", then at the recording's own speed.
- Because this clip runs faster than most of the catalogue, do one pass at half speed before you attempt english shadowing practice at 204 words per minute, then compare your recording against the line.
- Repeat the same three lines across a few sessions rather than moving straight through all 206 lines. A handful of lines you can say cleanly beats a whole clip you only played once, and this kind of daily practice is what actually shifts english speaking practice from recognition to production.