Pratique du shadowing : How to Make Small Talk People Actually Enjoy
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- We've all had conversations that feel forced or boring or are filled with awkward silences.0:00
- It can be almost painful, like this next clip.0:04
- So in this video, we're going to go over five steps to make small talk with anyone.0:10
- We'll do so by breaking down some tricks that Joe Rogan uses on his podcast to connect with everyone from academics to athletes to celebrities.0:19
- Some will be mindsets, and some will be word for word questions you can steal.0:26
- These habits are a big reason why so many of Joe's conversations end like this.0:31
- Most people have their guard up when they first meet you.0:46
- They aren't sure if you're going to be competitive or try to put them down in some way.0:51
- So the first trick you can steal from Joe is to grease the wheels early with a compliment.0:54
- This isn't something you have to do to make a small talk go well, but it helps you start the conversation with a positive vibe.0:59
- There's a lot of potential compliments you could give someone.1:06
- That said, there's three easy types you can focus on for small talk, their work, their energy, or a platonic physical compliment.1:09
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- With those three options, you should be able to compliment almost anyone you meet.1:16
- Here's a quick example of each.1:21
- Thank you very much for being here.1:23
- I'm a really big fan, so this is an honor.1:24
- I love being around people like you.1:26
- My guy.1:28
- People around you, people like you, you're going for shit all the time, and it's infectious.1:29
- It's like you give off energy.1:35
- Nice to meet you.1:37
- Good to meet you too.1:39
- By the way, congrats on the mustache.1:39
- The mustache, lower piece combo.1:41
- That's the anarchist guy with that guy that who's the mask?1:43
- Guy Fox, that's right.1:47
- Yeah, yeah.1:48
- Perfect, right?1:48
- People make three common mistakes when giving compliments that you'll want to avoid.1:49
- The first is making the compliment too sexual.1:53
- Second is making a compliment you don't mean, which makes you seem manipulative.1:56
- The third is dwelling on the compliment.2:00
- A compliment is great, but especially with people of high status who hear compliments all the time, you'll want to transition off of it fairly quickly.2:02
- In general, transitioning off of an introduction and into an interesting conversation is one of the hardest parts of small talk.2:10
- The best way to do this is by transitioning between topics using reminds me of thinking.2:17
- For example, with Josh Barnett, Joe starts the conversation in his standard way by complimenting his beard.2:22
- How long you been drawing that?2:27
- That's a real one.2:29
- That's a man's beard.2:30
- After Josh responds, Joe does what most people would do and starts talking about his own hair.2:31
- But very quickly, he uses that to toss out a new potential topic.2:36
- Probably 35.2:39
- I started growing like series back hair.2:41
- I'm not like who's that Russian wrestler dude?2:43
- This is one.2:45
- Oh, well, there was this guy, Victor Zangiev, who who actually did professional wrestling and that guy was just coated in it.2:46
- Oh, yeah, right.2:54
- There's another guy, Salma Hashimikov.2:54
- Most people make the mistake of thinking very linearly during small talk.2:56
- So they'd simply comment on their own hair and then stare over at you hoping that you would take the conversation somewhere interesting.2:59
- Just by tossing out that his back hair reminds him of a Russian wrestler, Joe and Josh are able to spend the next four minutes talking about various wrestlers and3:06
- MMA fighters.3:14
- It's a simple habit to build and makes a huge difference in the quality of your small talk.3:15
- Here's another quick example with Rob Lowe.3:19
- Rob asked Joe a question about baseball, which Joe doesn't seem interested in talking about.3:21
- Most people here would just say something like, no, not really, and let the conversation stall.3:26
- Instead, Joe uses lateral thinking to transition to something else.3:30
- Are you a fan of the of the baseball with the crowd noise?3:34
- Um, crowd noise?3:37
- No, I'm not a fan of fake noise.3:38
- I hate that some cars do that.3:40
- They put fake engine noise through the speakers.3:43
- Oh, Jesus.3:46
- Exactly.3:47
- Because he didn't just answer the question, but instead asked himself what fake sound in a baseball stadium reminds him of, they were able to transition to cars.3:47
- A topic, it turns out, they both love.3:56
- So next time you're in conversation and can't think of anything to say, it's as simple as asking yourself, what does this remind me of?3:58
- And then branch off in whatever direction first comes to your mind.4:03
- In both those cases, you see another common habit of Joe's.4:07
- He pings for topics of mutual interest.4:09
- Joe is infamous for doing this by bringing up DMT in every conversation.4:13
- Good DMT, DMT, DMT, DMT, DMT, DMT, DMT, DMT.4:17
- When a guest doesn't know what it is, it just goes by the wayside.4:22
- But when they do, it's an immediate connection.4:25
- This will keep you genuinely interested in the conversation.4:27
- Joe is a master at doing this in the other direction as well.4:31
- He has two tricks to get other people excited about the conversation.4:33
- They're both super easy to do, but most people don't do them, which is why small talk feels so painful at times.4:37
- For example, here's a common small talk conversation.4:42
- Where are you from originally?4:45
- I'm from Wilmington, Delaware.4:47
- Wilmington, Delaware.4:48
- I don't know many people from Delaware.4:49
- Thank you.4:51
- Yeah.4:52
- It is Wilmington, like nice town.4:53
- Yeah, it's great.4:55
- Where are you from?4:56
- Is it nice there?4:57
- These are boring questions that no one is going to be excited to answer unless they already like you.4:58
- It's very similar, but watch what Joe asks instead.5:03
- Why Utah, man?5:06
- Why are you living in Utah?5:07
- What's that about?5:08
- Joe peels the onion.5:09
- He goes one level deeper by asking why questions that get someone talking about what they value.5:10
- This may seem hard to work into a conversation, but it's actually quite simple.5:15
- You just do it in two phases.5:18
- Where do you live?5:20
- That's cool.5:21
- Why do you live there?5:22
- What do you do for work?5:23
- Interesting.5:25
- Why did you decide to do that?5:25
- Even if the person doesn't love where they live, you'll get to hear what's important to them.5:28
- Maybe it's their job, their family, a passion, whatever it is.5:32
- Now you know what's important to them and can ask a question about that, which they're much more likely to want to talk about.5:35
- This ties directly into the second trick Joe uses.5:40
- He asks questions that are fun to answer.5:43
- For example, an issue you might run into with small talk is that some people don't have anything interesting going on in their lives to share about.5:46
- One way to get them past that block is to ask a fun question that removes the constraint of having to be realistic.5:52
- Here's a few examples.5:58
- If you had a magic wand and someone said you could do whatever you want to fix this, what would you do?5:59
- You were the king of the world.6:06
- I said, Ed, what are we going to do?6:07
- Let's say you become president.6:09
- Pulling both tricks together, a great decision tree of questions to get an interesting conversation going can be, what do you do?6:10
- Then as a follow up, do you like it?6:17
- If they say yes, you can ask why and elicit their values.6:19
- If they say no, you can ask, well, if you had $100 million, what would you do instead?6:22
- Joe also has two habits for creating a connection with people while listening.6:27
- The first is he laughs easily.6:31
- This makes it more fun to talk to him because it makes you feel good for being funny even when you aren't trying to be.6:33
- For instance, watch him react when Elon Musk's talks about selling flamethrowers through the boring company.6:39
- How many did you make?6:44
- 20 ,000.6:45
- And they're all gone.6:47
- Here's another example where Joe laughs at what Dan Bolzarian is saying even though Dan isn't trying to make a joke.6:50
- He's able to find humor in the absurd, and in both cases, you see the other person light up a bit as they get a laugh from Joe.7:05
- For another example, watch David Blaine's big smile after he accidentally makes Joe laugh.7:11
- The goal here is not to fake laugh.7:25
- What you want to do is allow yourself to laugh every time you find something funny.7:27
- Laughing is a habit that gets easier the more you do it.7:31
- So if you struggle to laugh when you're out with friends or in conversation with strangers, a good habit is to watch something you know will make you laugh right7:33
- before going out.7:41
- This will help you be in a better state to laugh in conversation.7:42
- The second habit Joe has when listening is mirroring.7:46
- There's several ways to mirror, but Joe's is most similar to ex -FBI negotiator Chris Voss's method.7:49
- Here's a quick example where he mirrors to make you feel heard.8:10
- Here's a different example.8:22
- This time, he mirrors to build rapport with Jordan Peterson before taking control of the conversation.8:24
- Don't do this after every sentence, but if you find you want to make someone feel heard or you want to interrupt without making the person feel ignored, mirror their8:37
- last three words.8:44
- Also, it's worth noting while Joe does mirror people's words, he is not a chameleon.8:45
- He stays true to himself and his style.8:50
- For instance, Jordan Peterson is a polite guy who wears a suit and carefully chooses his words, but you just saw Joe chatting with him in a hoodie dropping F8:52
- -bombs in the first minute.9:00
- So you want to mirror someone's last few words as a quick hack to build a bit of rapport, but you don't want to copy everything about someone.9:01
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